I need tips on building a computer.

[Basket_Case]

I?m poor and I need a good computer that can run battlefield 2.

I have thought about a dell.
I have thought about alienware.
I checked ebay.
And I almost thought about emachines.
So I went on cyberpowersystem.com

Now I?m in the process of finding the price of all the parts I want on newegg.com and to find out if I can save more money.

All I know for sure is that I want the nemesis elite.
Any tips on parts?

--UPDATE--

System Requirements
====================

- Operating System
Windows XP (32 Bit Version)

- CPU
Battlefield 2 supports the following processors:
Intel Pentium 4
Intel Xeon
Intel Pentium Extreme Edition
Intel Celeron D
AMD Athlon XP
AMD Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64-FX
AMD Sempron processor

- Minimum Specification:
CPU: 1.7 Ghz
RAM: 512 Mb
Video Card: NVidia GeForce FX 5700, ATI Radeon 8500 or ATI Radeon 9500
with 128 Mb of RAM

- Recommended Specification:
CPU: 2.4 Ghz
RAM: 1 Gb
Video Card with at least 256 Mb of RAM

- Video Cards
Battlefield 2 only supports the following video cards:
Radeon X700 (PCIe)
Radeon X600 (PCIe)
GeForce 6600 (PCIe)
GeForce PCX 5900 (PCIe)
GeForce 5800 Series (AGP)
ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition
ATI Radeon X800 PRO
ATI Radeon 9800 Series
ATI Radeon 9600 Series
ATI Radeon 9550 (RV350LX)
ATI Radeon 9500 / 9700 Series
ATI Radeon 8500 Series
ATI Radeon X300 Series
NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
NVidia GeForce 6800 GT
NVidia GeForce 6800
NVidia GeForce FX 5950 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5900 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5700 Series

[RedRoseWolF]

Alienware is really overpriced, dell is alright but you never know with them....if you're looking at cyberpowersystem you can also check out their sister site, Ibuypower.com

[goodgameral]

with newegg and good enough to play bf2, you could get an amd athlon 64 3000+ or higher, probably a nvidia 6600 or ati x700 or higher, and if you want a western digital raptor drive, but thats very not needed. Here are the specs of my dell that I run the demo okay on, but don't buy through them, this system was so over priced;

p4 530 3.0ghz
512mb ram
ati radeon x300 se
western digital 80gb
nec dvd-rw

[Exitialis]

the problem with dell is everything that can be is intel.

id say get the best AMD cpu you can leaving money for the best HSF you can, then an ide hard drive if your saving as much money as you can. a 9800 pro 128mb and an artic cooler (or the HIS excalebur (or however you spell it) because it comes with one prefitted). the best 1gb of ram you can get. use the PSU in the elite a cheap DVD drive (and a floppy if your getting a sata hard drive) use the onboard sound card.

then overclock the hell out of it (you have very good cooling for your money as the artic cooler is an extreme good cooler and as long as you pick a good cpu cooler your good to go :thumbsup: )

and there you have a pc capable of running BF2 at a fairly decent res for about $400 or so id say if you get everything from the right places.

if you want to splash out more just get better components then those ive listed.

[Basket_Case]

$119.00
AMD Mobile Athlon 64 3000+ (DTR) ClawHammer 800MHz FSB Socket 754 Processor Model AMA3000BEX5AR - OEM

$215.00
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ ClawHammer 800MHz FSB Socket 754 Processor Model ADA3700AEP5AR - OEM

Is it worth it to get the more expensive one?

[goodgameral]

you're getting almost a gigahertz more, id say so..

[Exitialis]

most definently, the first is a laptop/notebook processor hence the extra cost because it will need a smaller fabrifcation process to reduce the heat given off, seeing as this is going in a PC then get the more expensive one, its much better.

[Basket_Case]

What should I use to cool my cpu?

And I also just thought of something.
I really want to the the nemesis elite and with the front cover deal.
So will i be able to have any knobs in any of the drive bays?

[goodgameral]

basket, here's somethin im not sure if u know already;

Amd provessors go like this;
3000+=3.0ghz
3200+=3.2ghz
3500+=3.5ghz
etc. Hope that clears up a couple things. By the way, thats ghz version intel style. Which the 939 AMDs are still more powerful than because of their 1000mhz fsb. 754s are still better though

[Basket_Case]

Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 AMC 8" 4-Pin Power Cable Splitter Model Y Power Cable - OEM
Model #: Y Power Cable
$5.00 -$5.00 Sale $0.00
CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update AOpen Black IDE Model DUW1616ARR BLK - OEM
Model #: DUW1616ARR BLK
Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wish List
$37.99 $37.99
ATX Computer Cases
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update NZXT NEMESIS ELITE BLK Black 1.0 mm ALUMINUM ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 400 WATT PS2 ATX 12V Power Supply - Retail
Model #: NEMESIS ELITE BLK
Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wish List
$125.00 $125.00
AMD-compatible Motherboards
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update ASUS K8N-E DELUXE Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: K8N-E DELUXE
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$108.00 $108.00
CD/DVD ROM Drives
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update LITE-ON Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model SOHD-16P9SBLK - Retail
Model #: SOHD-16P9SBLK
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$19.99 $19.99
Card Readers
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update SABRENT SBT-ICR42B 42-in-1 USB 2.0 Black Internal & External Card Reader/Writer - Retail
Model #: SBT-ICR42B
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$13.99 $13.99
Memory - System
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail
Model #: VS1GBKIT400
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$88.00 $88.00
Case / Rackmount Accessories
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL 30cm Cold Cathode Kit - Retail
Model #: CLK12BL
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$5.99 $5.99

Update LOGISYS Computer CLK12UV 12" UV COLD CATHODE KIT - Retail
Model #: CLK12UV
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$5.99 $5.99

Update CASEACE GGPFKS GEARGRIP PRO (Standard) Computer Carrying Harness - Retail
Model #: GGPFKS
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$26.50 $26.50
Processors
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update AMD Athlon 64 3700+ ClawHammer 800MHz FSB Socket 754 Processor Model ADA3700AEP5AR - OEM
Model #: ADA3700AEP5AR
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$215.00 $215.00
Operating Systems
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update Microsoft Windows XP HOME Edition With Service Pack 2 - OEM
Model #: N09-01152
** Software delivered damaged and/or defective may be returned for an identical replacement. what's this?
Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wish List
$91.95 $91.95
Combo
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update ZALMAN CNPS7700-CU 120mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan - Retail
Model #: CNPS7700-CU
Remove Remove
$52.99 -$5.00 Combo
-$8.00 Instant $39.99
newegg Glossy Logo Sticker - OEM
Model #: Newegg Logo Sticker

Combo
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

Update Thermaltake VENUS 12 80mm Ball Cooling Fan/Heatsink - Retail
Model #: VENUS 12
Remove Remove
$41.99 -$5.00 Combo
$36.99
newegg Glossy Logo Sticker - OEM
Model #: Newegg Logo Sticker

Subtotal: $815.38

this is my shopping cart at the moment

[goodgameral]

why do u have two cpu coolers? you only need one.

[Basket_Case]

Im deciding on what one to get

[goodgameral]

if you want one thats 10 more than the zalman, get the cooler master hyper 6+
for some reason though, it soesn't search it right on newegg, so go the fans/heatsinks, and just chose cooler master as the brand.

[Basket_Case]

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishDetail.asp?position=HISTORY&ID=1687939&WishListTitle=Mine+Computer

[goodgameral]

that link you have there just shows people their current wish list. Not yours. Did you share the wishlist first?

[Basket_Case]

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/WishShareShow.asp?ID=1687939&WishListTitle=MINE+COMPUTER

that should be mine

[Basket_Case]

Is there any room on the front of the nemesis elite between the door for any of those knobs that come with some things?

[Exitialis]

any reason your getting a newegg sticker? :confused:

will ruin the looks of your elite you realise...

[Basket_Case]

The sticker will be free.

And if I ever put that sticker on my computer ,which prolly wont happen , it will be on the inside.

[Exitialis]

oh said it cost $5 on there.

[RedRoseWolF]

yeah...when you transfer something to the wishlist in newegg, the combos are all separated into single things....I have the newegg sticker that came with my turbine laying on the bottom of my case temporarily.....most likely won't stay there...

[Basket_Case]

I would still like an answer about the door.

[goodgameral]

it comes free once u put in the cart. And is there a hard drive?

[Basket_Case]

I already have a 120gb hard drive in that crap computer.

[goodgameral]

dude, where's ur video card?

[Basket_Case]

Oh yea. Any cheap suggestions?

I need an AGP 4X/8X.
And for bf2 as well.
I updated the first post with the specs needed.

[goodgameral]

i say maybe nvidia 6600? those cost about $150 and can handle bf2 on at least medium settings. Or go for a 9800 pro. Thats what exitialis im pretty sure said... Plus they pretty cheap nowadays. More lilke $60.00

[Basket_Case]

That is not on the list.

[goodgameral]

just because thats what ea says is supported, but in reality you can go beter or do different ones. For instance, I have a 6600gt, and i could still play it.

But considering the prices of those cards and since you want to go with a card on the list, id say a 6600.

XFX 6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150086)

[Basket_Case]

ok

Obviosly ok is not a big enough message.

[Basket_Case]

basket, here's somethin im not sure if u know already;

Amd provessors go like this;
3000+=3.0ghz
3200+=3.2ghz
3500+=3.5ghz
etc. Hope that clears up a couple things. By the way, thats ghz version intel style. Which the 939 AMDs are still more powerful than because of their 1000mhz fsb. 754s are still better though

AMD Athlon 64 4600+ X2
# Model# ADA4600BVBOX
# 512K x 2 L2 Cache
# 2.4GHz
# Socket 939
Price:$690.00

Im not getting it or anything but that says 1600+=2.4

Im confused.

[RedRoseWolF]

I believe that the 4600+ amd is equivalent to a 4.6Ghz intel....i'm not sure what the exact clock speeds mean for amd's though

[goodgameral]

Im not sure whos clock speeds are true, but AMD claims that Intel does not use actual correct speeds. Hence why AMD stopped going fully by clock speed and went to 3xxx+ in the names.

[Basket_Case]

Ok now I feel dumb.
Im getting an ultra x-connect power supply and whats all this talk about 20pin 24pin adapter

[Exitialis]

thats just a way of making the PSU compatible with older motherboards, dont worry about it.

[SOCOM-DELTA]

Q
Update Thermaltake VENUS 12 80mm Ball Cooling Fan/Heatsink - Retail
Model #: VENUS 12
Remove Remove
$41.99 -$5.00 Combo
$36.99
newegg Glossy Logo Sticker - OEM
Model #: Newegg Logo Sticker

Subtotal: $815.38

this is my shopping cart at the moment

don't get anything from thermaltake; as i hear, they're ripoffs of Thermalright. besides, i've dealt with exactly one Tt product and that's all i need to know that they are kinda shoddy; i bought the massive cooling tower. it's essentially 5 lbs. of solid copper. yeah... $55 wasted.

stick with thermalright or zalman; if anybody can add any other reputable cooling supply mfgers to the list, let me know. (arctic cooling too, i believe).

[goodgameral]

or the best one; Cooler Master Hyper 6+...

[SOCOM-DELTA]

yes; cooler master is also a good brand for your cooling needs.

like i said, if anyone can make a list of reputable brands that make cpu coolers & pc cooling supplies, post them here. or maybe i'll start a new thread.... hmm..... :)

[Exitialis]

don't get anything from thermaltake; as i hear, they're ripoffs of Thermalright. besides, i've dealt with exactly one Tt product and that's all i need to know that they are kinda shoddy; i bought the massive cooling tower. it's essentially 5 lbs. of solid copper. yeah... $55 wasted.ah that was actually laugh at loud funny im afraid, as thermalright and thermaltake are in fact the same company. and you cant really rip yourself off.

cooler master hypre 6+ is good

you could of course just look here: http://www.frostytech.com/ which reviews just cpu coolers.

[Basket_Case]

update on parts

they dont have some things now, so i changed it




AMC 8" 4-Pin Power Cable Splitter Model Y Power Cable - OEM

Logitech MX518 931352-0403 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail

SABRENT SBT-ICR42B 42-in-1 USB 2.0 Black Internal & External Card Reader/Writer - Retail

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS1GB400C3 - Retail

LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL 30cm Cold Cathode Kit - Retail

LOGISYS Computer CLK12UV 12" UV COLD CATHODE KIT - Retail

Microsoft Windows XP HOME Edition With Service Pack 2 - OEM

ZALMAN CNPS7700-CU 120mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Copper Heatsink - Retail

ASUS Black IDE DVD Burner 5X DVD-RAM Read Model DRW-1608P2 BK - OEM

ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA4000BNBOX - Retail

PNY VCG6600GXPB Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card

[Retell]

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